[Culturechat] Someone needs to sell these folks a bridge

Thu, 17 Apr 2003 18:31:45 +0200

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Will I deserve punishment for disagreeing with you ? You=92re right, =
lives are
at stake and freedom is at stake. If I understand your reasoning it is =
right
to wage war to bring freedom and dignity to an oppressed nation but a
sovereign nation that exercises that freedom should be punished ? =20

That would mean that all nations should agree with the US and do as they
say. or be considered as enemies ? =20

To think =93you are either with us or against us=94 is preposterous in =
the free
world, for an American President to say it is shocking. The world is not
black and white. The international community was stunned.  It is very
important that the world not succumb to such threats. It seems to me to =
be
the very heart of democracy =85 nations will disagree on one issue and =
unite
on others.  This is the way it should be and relations will normalize
shortly unless the way of fear and violence is chosen. Terrorists blow =
up
bridges ? We are all capable of building many more than they can =
destroy. We
need to start from both sides and meet in the middle. The world becomes =
more
unsafe when we are dominated by fear, when debate or disagreement is
smothered by threats =85

=20

=20

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la part de ALNATKIN@aol.com
Envoy=E9 : mercredi 16 avril 2003 22:01
=C0 : CPetersret@aol.com; culturechat@untours.com
Objet : Re: RE : [Culturechat] Someone needs to sell these folks a =
bridge

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As a 20 year Idyller I agree with Vance. Those countries will get what =
they
deservre from Americans.  It will behoove Idyll to seriously consider
promoting travel to countries with a decided anti-American bias. I know =
Hal
would want to be neutral in matters like this. BUT as the President has =
said
" you are either with us or you are against us". This issue goes far =
beyond
niceties and wishful thinking. Lives are at stake. The world is a very
unsafe place. Terrorists blow up bridges and we all have to make sure we =
are
on the right side when the bridge goes down.  Al Natkin

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Will I deserve punishment for disagreeing with you ? =
You&#8217;re
right, lives are at stake and freedom is at stake. If I understand your
reasoning it is right to wage war to bring freedom and dignity to an =
oppressed
nation but a sovereign nation that exercises that freedom should be =
punished ? =A0

That
would mean that all nations should agree with the US and do =
as they say.
or be considered as enemies ? =A0

To
think &#8220;you are either with us or against us&#8221; is preposterous =
in the
free world, for an American President to say it is shocking. The world =
is not
black and white. The international community was stunned. =A0It is very =
important
that the world not succumb to such threats. It seems to me to be the =
very heart
of democracy &#8230; nations will disagree on one issue and unite on =
others. =A0This
is the way it should be and relations will normalize shortly unless the =
way of
fear and violence is chosen. Terrorists blow up bridges ? We are all =
capable of
building many more than they can destroy. We need to start from both =
sides and
meet in the middle. The world becomes more unsafe when we are dominated =
by fear,
when debate or disagreement is smothered by threats =
&#8230;

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16 avril
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As a 20 year Idyller I =
agree with
Vance. Those countries will get what they deservre from Americans.&nbsp; =
It
will behoove Idyll to seriously consider promoting travel to countries =
with a
decided anti-American bias. I know Hal would want to be neutral in =
matters like
this. BUT as the President has said &quot; you are either with us or you =
are
against us&quot;. This issue goes far beyond niceties and wishful =
thinking.
Lives are at stake. The world is a very unsafe place. Terrorists blow up
bridges and we all have to make sure we are on the right side when the =
bridge
goes down.&nbsp; Al Natkin

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