[Idyllchat] Re Austria Untour

Tue Apr 15 18:13:43 EDT 2008

Hello Lucy,

I agree with everything Phil had to say. We adore the Spitzers and  
Golling and met some other Untourists there who have become lifelong  
friends. You could always rent a car for a few days to get to those  
out of the way places that take longer to reach by public  
transportation. The Spitzer's will also do a great job of showing you  
around and getting you to some places you might not otherwise find on  
your own.

Be sure to check out all the trip logs on the Untours website....it  
will save you a lot of time trying to figure out what you want to see  
and do. You can find my husband's and my triplog at: http:// 
www.untours.com/triplogs/AustriaTripLog2001byRoy.html

You will love the food in Austria!!!

Have a great time.

Barbara Crowell Roy
Sachseln, Switzerland

On 15.04.2008, at 21:44, Phillip King wrote:

> Hi, Lucy!
>    Accommodations:  You might want to look at Heinz and Hannelore  
> Spitzer's apartments in Golling.  They have two separate apartments  
> in their house, one on the ground floor and another on the third  
> floor, so you would have the privacy of your own apartment, but  
> togetherness when you want it..  In addition, the Spitzers are  
> wonderful hosts and Golling is a neat little town only about 20  
> minutes by train from Salzburg.
>    On the issue of cars vs trains:  A car gives you greater  
> flexibility, but greater responsibility, also.  And, the guy who  
> does the driving usually gets short-changed on the sightseeing.  It  
> is tough to watch the scenery and the road at the same time.  I  
> know this from the experience of driving in Spain and Provence.
>    Jane and I spent a month on an Untour at the Spitzer's in  
> Golling and were perfectly happy there and with the Railpass.  The  
> train service was reliable and frequent enough that we never  
> experienced delays or long waits for trains, and we were always  
> able to get to places we wanted to visit just by using the rail  
> system in Austria.
>    The sole exception was the day we decided to go to Mauthausen,  
> the WWII concentration camp.  I forget what town it was near, but  
> the train took us into town, then there was supposed to be a bus to  
> the concentration camp. We waited for something like 20 minutes for  
> the bus, but it never showed up, so we ended up walking the 2 or 3  
> miles to the camp.  No big deal, and it was actually a beautiful  
> day and a lovely walk.  It was hard for us to believe that such a  
> beautiful countryside could be the site of such a horrible death camp.
>    One advantage with trains in much of Europe is that the train  
> stations usually are somewhere near the heart of town and within  
> easy walking distance of the things you want to see and do.  With  
> an auto, you may have difficulty finding parking in town, if you  
> can find parking at all.  If all else fails, you can always drive  
> to the train station and see if there are any parking spots  
> available there.
>    Personally, I/we much prefer the trains to the hassles of  
> driving and we opt for the Railpass whenever we can.
>    I hope this information helps.  And, I hope you have a great trip.
>    Phil King, Spring Lake, MI
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lucy McCain"  
> <lmccain at mccainfinancial.com>
> To: <idyllchat at lists.untours.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:28 PM
> Subject: [Idyllchat] Re Austria Untour
>
>
>>
>> We are looking at the Austria Untour and would like some first  
>> hand advice
>> about accommodations.  We are 2 couples, so limited to  
>> accommodations that
>> sleep 4:  Springl 3; Helmich 1;  Gschwandtner Upper; Santner.   
>> Does anyone
>> have comments on these properties?
>>
>> Also, interested in the merits of rail vs. car.  We loved the rail in
>> Switzerland; so much more relaxing than trying to drive.  But  
>> notice that
>> several Austria untourists have taken the car instead.  Any comments?
>>
>> Lucy McCain
>> lmccain at mccainfinancial.com
>>
>>
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