[Idyllchat] Languages of the Land

[Robert M. Smith]

I was under the impression that Culture Chat was created so that non-travel issues could be discussed in that forum so that  those who are primarily interested in travel subjects would not get a callus on their DELETE finger. Maybe Idyll would like to weigh in on this.
Robert

  
----- Original Message ----- 
  From: momman at pacbell.net 
  To: Joan Herriges ; Robert M. Smith ; Dennis Dean Carpenter ; idyllchat at lists.untours.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 2:49 PM
  Subject: Re: [Idyllchat] Languages of the Land


  CultureChat or Cafe or anywhere.  Diverse topics are always interesting. Why not be able to discuss anything, anywhere?  It is supremely easy to delete.

  Barbara Green

  Joan Herriges <joanherriges at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
    Yes Robert, CultureChat is still available for non-travel topics. There 
    have been a number of recent topics that would be better discussed there. 
    Perhaps some of the newer folks to Idyllchat aren't familiar with that site.

    Thanks Dennis Dean for pointing that out. For anyone interested in posting 
    can go to culturechat at untours.com

    Also, I think the Untours Cafe can handle some discussions not related to 
    specific travel questions--on your personal pages, or replying to others. 
    Cheers. Joan.



    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: "Robert M. Smith" 
    To: "Dennis Dean Carpenter" ; 

    Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 5:06 PM
    Subject: Re: [Idyllchat] Languages of the Land


    >A very good point.
    > Is Culture Chat still around?
    > Robert
    >
    > ----- Original Message ----- 
    > From: "Dennis Dean Carpenter" 
    > To: 
    > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:03 PM
    > Subject: [Idyllchat] Languages of the Land
    >
    >
    >> Sure, and I've taught classes in the various ESOL courses taught here, 
    >> there and everywhere for teacher certification and graduate credit and 
    >> could debate immersion OR bi-lingual... either one... (One must be able 
    >> to understand language acquisition, culture, family and so forth to speak 
    >> intelligently about this. Anecdotal information is meaningless and 
    >> fraught with stereotyping.) My question, however, would be what the heck 
    >> this has to do with Idyll travel!
    >> Dennis Dean Carpenter
    >> Dahlonega, Ga.
    >>
    >> Quote from the last digest:
    >> "All: Please note that California schools have students who speak almost
    >> 200 different languages. Most of these are educated in English as a
    >> Second Language class for the fewest possible years. Texas schools have
    >> a similar student body (but under 100 different languages). The big
    >> problem is with the so-called "bi-lingual" program which is offered only
    >> to "Spanish" speaking children. These are identified through an
    >> English/Spanish test before they enter school. Even if they prove to be
    >> equal in both languages (sounds like they are already bi-lingual to me)
    >> as a result of the test, they are still placed in a "bi-lingual"
    >> classroom unless their parents strongly object. These classes emphasize
    >> "Spanish" not English. The children could be immersed in English just
    >> as all the others but it has been mandated that they learn to read and
    >> write and think in Spanish first. We miss the most important years for
    >> learning a new language...the ones before puberty when the brain sets on
    >> a language. Many of our generation...the retirees...came from homes
    >> where a language other than English was spoken. We made the transition
    >> from English at school to whatever was spoken at home with a minimum of
    >> problems. Even some of my Mexican-American friends wonder why the
    >> children today cannot learn the same way they did."
    >>
    >>
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