[Idyllchat] Languages of the Land

[Robert M. Smith]

A very good point.
Is Culture Chat still around?
Robert

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dennis Dean Carpenter" <ddcanne at alltel.net>
To: <idyllchat at lists.untours.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2007 7:03 PM
Subject: [Idyllchat] Languages of the Land


> Sure, and I've taught classes in the various ESOL courses taught here, 
> there and everywhere for teacher certification and graduate credit and 
> could debate immersion OR bi-lingual... either one... (One must be able to 
> understand language acquisition, culture, family and so forth to speak 
> intelligently about this. Anecdotal information is meaningless and fraught 
> with stereotyping.) My question, however,  would be what the heck this has 
> to do with Idyll travel!
> Dennis Dean Carpenter
> Dahlonega, Ga.
>
> Quote from the last digest:
> "All:  Please note that California schools have students who speak almost
> 200 different languages.  Most of these are educated in English as a
> Second Language class for the fewest possible years.  Texas schools have
> a similar student body (but under 100 different languages).  The big
> problem is with the so-called "bi-lingual" program which is offered only
> to "Spanish" speaking children.  These are identified through an
> English/Spanish test before they enter school.  Even if they prove to be
> equal in both languages (sounds like they are already bi-lingual to me)
> as a result of the test, they are still placed in a "bi-lingual"
> classroom unless their parents strongly object.  These classes emphasize
> "Spanish" not English.  The children could be immersed in English just
> as all the others but it has been mandated that they learn to read and
> write and think in Spanish first.  We miss the most important years for
> learning a new language...the ones before puberty when the brain sets on
> a language.  Many of our generation...the retirees...came from homes
> where a language other than English was spoken.  We made the transition
> from English at school to whatever was spoken at home with a minimum of
> problems.  Even some of my Mexican-American friends wonder why the
> children today cannot learn the same way they did."
>
>
>
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