From WesTexas@aol.com Sat Mar 26 23:12:16 2005
From: WesTexas@aol.com (WesTexas@aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:12:16 EST
Subject: [Culturechat] Many Germans Want Berlin Wall Back, Study Finds
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Interesting item that was posted on the Drudge Report:
BERLIN (Reuters) - Nearly a quarter of western Germans and 12 percent of
easterners want the Berlin Wall back -- more than 15 years after the fall of the
barrier that split Germany during the Cold War, according to a new survey.
The results of the poll, published Saturday, reflected die-hard animosities
over high reunification costs lowering western standards of living and economic
turmoil in the east.
The survey of 2,000 Germans by Berlin's Free University and pollsters Forsa
found 24 percent of those living in western Germany want the Wall back --
double the eastern level.
In Berlin itself, 11 percent of westerners and 8 percent of easterners said
"yes" when asked: "Would it be better if the Wall between East and West were
still standing?."
The Berlin Wall was breached on Nov. 9, 1989, paving the way for the
unification of Communist East Germany with the West on Oct. 3, 1990. But billions of
euros (dollars) spent rebuilding the east have failed to prop up the depressed
region, which is plagued by high unemployment and a shrinking population.
The poll also found that 47 percent of the easterners agree with the
statement that the West "acquired the east like a colony," while 58 percent of the
westerners back the statement that "easterners tend to wallow in self-pity."
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Drudge Report:
BERLI=
N (Reuters) - Nearly a quarter of western Germans and 12 percent of easterne=
rs want the Berlin Wall back -- more than 15 years after the fall of the bar=
rier that split Germany during the Cold War, according to a new survey.
The results of the poll, published Saturday, reflected die-hard animosities=20=
over high reunification costs lowering western standards of living and econo=
mic turmoil in the east.
The survey of 2,000 Germans by Berlin's Free University and pollsters Forsa=
found 24 percent of those living in western Germany want the Wall back -- d=
ouble the eastern level.
In Berlin itself, 11 percent of westerners and 8 percent of easterners said=
"yes" when asked: "Would it be better if the Wall between East and West wer=
e still standing?."
The Berlin Wall was breached on Nov. 9, 1989, paving the way for the unific=
ation of Communist East Germany with the West on Oct. 3, 1990. But billions=20=
of euros (dollars) spent rebuilding the east have failed to prop up the depr=
essed region, which is plagued by high unemployment and a shrinking populati=
on.
The poll also found that 47 percent of the easterners agree with the statem=
ent that the West "acquired the east like a colony," while 58 percent of the=
westerners back the statement that "easterners tend to wallow in self-pity.=
"
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From WesTexas@aol.com Sat Mar 26 23:35:47 2005
From: WesTexas@aol.com (WesTexas@aol.com)
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 18:35:47 EST
Subject: [Culturechat] IEA Proposes Ban-Rationing-Enforced Quotas on Oil Consumption--Would Apply in US
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5/6ths of the 3/25/05 New York Times OP-ED page was devoted to energy issues.
The lead article was a Peak Oil article by Kenneth Deffeyes: "What Happens
When the Oil Runs Out?" http://www.energybulletin.net/4883.html
What is significant about the draconian proposals coming out of the IEA is
that they have traditionally been in the happy face infinite energy camp. Note
that the U.S. is obligated by an international treaty to implement severe
cuts in oil consumption in the event of a shortage. Given our low density
suburban lifestyle, the U.S. will be affected much more than European countries.
J. Brown
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/032505_world_stories.shtml#1
>From Adam Porter at BBC -- International Energy Agency Proposes
Ban-Rationing-Enforced Quotas on Oil Consumption -- Measures Would Apply in US
Energy body wants brakes on fuel consumption
by Adam Porter in Perpignan, France
Thursday 24 March 2005 1:51 PM GMT
The International Energy Agency is to propose drastic cutbacks in car use to
halt continuing oil-supply problems. Those cutbacks include anything from
car-pooling to outright police-enforced driving bans for citizens.
Fuel "emergency supply disruptions and price shocks" - in other words,
shortages - could be met by governments. Not only can governments save fuel by
implementing some of the measures suggested, but in doing so they can also
shortcut market economics.
An advance briefing of the report, titled Saving Oil in a Hurry: Measures for
Rapid Demand Restraint in Transport, states this succinctly.
"Why should governments intervene to cut oil demand during a supply
disruption or price surge? One obvious reason is to conserve fuel that might be in
short supply. "But perhaps more importantly, a rapid demand response (especially
if coordinated across IEA countries) can send a strong market signal."
The report goes on to suggest a whole series of measures that could be used
to cut back on fuel consumption. They are cutting public-transport costs by a
certain amount to increase its usage while simultaneously dissuading car use.
Sweeping proposals
Then more radically the idea of going further and cutting public-transport
costs by 100%, making them free to use. Car-pooling, telecommuting and even
corrections to tyre pressures are also suggested.
But the most hardline emergency proposals come in the form of drastic speed
restrictions and compulsory driving bans. Bans could be one day in every 10
(10%) or more stringently on cars with odd or even number plates. They would be
banned from the roads on corresponding odd or even days of the month (50%).
The report says public transport should be made free to use
In forming its conclusions the IEA tacitly admits that extra police would be
needed in these circumstances to stop citizens breaking the bans. Even the
cost of those extra patrols are part of the IEA's study.
"Policing costs are more substantial and may consist of overtime payments
for existing police or traffic officers or increases in policing staff. We
assume this cost at one officer per 100,000 employed people."
As an example that means that the US workforce, currently around 138 million
people, would need an extra 1380 officers to help enforce the bans. It may
seem an optimistic figure. But even if this were so, the IEA is not put off.
"If our policing cost estimates are relatively low ... results clearly show
that even a doubling of our estimate would make (bans) a cost-effective
policy. The more stringent odd/even (day) policy is also more cost-effective than a
one-day-in-ten ban, as the costs are the same ... maintaining enforcement is
critical."
Tough love
Yet despite these measures, that many citizens would find quite draconian,
the IEA concludes that tough love is better than none at all.
"Our main conclusion finds that those policies that are more restrictive
tend to be most effective in gaining larger reductions in fuel consumption. In
particular, driving restrictions give the largest estimated reductions in fuel
consumption."
High oil prices are spurring talk of conservation and cutbacks in use
Here, however, they do strike a word of warning for governments and those in
power.
"Restrictive policies such as this can be relatively difficult to implement
and thus may come at higher political costs."
According to the IEA's little-known emergency treaty, the Agreement on an
International Energy Programme (IEP), "measures to achieve demand restraint fall
into three main classes - persuasion and public information, administrative
and compulsory measures, and finally, allocation and rationing schemes".
This would mean that countries who signed up to the treaty, including the
five biggest economies of the world - US, Japan, Germany, UK and France - would
all have to institute cuts.
"In the event of an activation of IEP emergency response measures, each IEA
Member country will be expected to immediately implement demand restraint
measures sufficient to reduce oil consumption by 7% of normal demand levels. In a
more severe disruption, this could be raised to 10%."
Effective ban?
There are some interesting asides in the report. As Americans have the most
cars, the driving bans could be got around by having one car with an odd, and
one car with an even number plate.
Proportionately it makes the ban less effective than in other countries.
As well as this older cars may be kept in service longer if they have
"useful" number plates which the IEA admits is "counter-productive from an
air-pollution reduction perspective, as older vehicles would tend to pollute more".
However, curtailing the working week and home working would be more
effective in the US as more people travel to work alone in their cars. As would
correct tyre pressures. In Japan speed reductions are less effective as there are
less motorways on which to travel fast.
Families with only one car would also be hit harder than their richer
friends as "bans may have some additional costs in terms of reduced accessibility
and mobility options particularly for single-vehicle households with limited
access to alternative modes".
Without doubt this report signifies that the IEA is searching for new ways
to maintain supply security in a volatile oil market. Whether it can achieve
its aims with this radical report is another matter.
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5/6ths of the 3/25/05 New York Times=
OP-ED page was devoted to energy issues. The lead article was a Peak=
Oil article by Kenneth Deffeyes: "What Happens When the Oil Runs Out?" =
http://www.energybulletin.net/4883.html
What is significant about the draconian proposals coming out of the IEA is t=
hat they have traditionally been in the happy face infinite energy camp.&nbs=
p; Note that the U.S. is obligated by an international treaty to implement=20=
severe cuts in oil consumption in the event of a shortage. Give=
n our low density suburban lifestyle, the U.S. will be affected much more th=
an European countries.
J. Brown
http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ww3/032505_world_stories.shtml#1
From Adam Porter at BBC -- International Energy Agency Proposes Ban-Ra=
tioning-Enforced Quotas on Oil Consumption -- Measures Would Apply in US=
Energy body wants brakes on fuel consumption
by Adam Porter in Perpignan, France
Thursday 24 March 2005 1:51 PM GMT
The International Energy Agency is to propose=
drastic cutbacks in car use to halt continuing oil-supply problems. Those c=
utbacks include anything from car-pooling to outright police-enforced drivin=
g bans for citizens.
Fuel "emergency supply disruptions and price shocks" - in other words, shor=
tages - could be met by governments. Not only can governments save fuel by i=
mplementing some of the measures suggested, but in doing so they can also sh=
ortcut market economics.
An advance briefing of the report, titled Saving Oil in a Hurry: Measures fo=
r Rapid Demand Restraint in Transport, states this succinctly.
"Why should governments intervene to cut oil demand during a supply disrupti=
on or price surge? One obvious reason is to conserve fuel that might be in s=
hort supply. "But perhaps more importantly, a rapid demand response (especia=
lly if coordinated across IEA countries) can send a strong market signal."
The report goes on to suggest a whole series of measures that could be used=
to cut back on fuel consumption. They are cutting public-transport costs by=
a certain amount to increase its usage while simultaneously dissuading car=20=
use.
Sweeping proposals
Then more radically the idea of going further and cutting public-transport=20=
costs by 100%, making them free to use. Car-pooling, telecommuting and even=20=
corrections to tyre pressures are also suggested.
But the most hardline emergency proposals come in the form of drastic speed=
restrictions and compulsory driving bans. Bans could be one day in every 10=
(10%) or more stringently on cars with odd or even number plates. They woul=
d be banned from the roads on corresponding odd or even days of the month (5=
0%).
The report says public transport should be made free to use
In forming its conclusions the IEA tacitly admits that extra police would be=
needed in these circumstances to stop citizens breaking the bans. Even the=20=
cost of those extra patrols are part of the IEA's study.
"Policing costs are more substantial and may consist of overtime payments f=
or existing police or traffic officers or increases in policing staff. We as=
sume this cost at one officer per 100,000 employed people."
As an example that means that the US workforce, currently around 138 millio=
n people, would need an extra 1380 officers to help enforce the bans. It may=
seem an optimistic figure. But even if this were so, the IEA is not put off=
.
"If our policing cost estimates are relatively low ... results clearly show=
that even a doubling of our estimate would make (bans) a cost-effective pol=
icy. The more stringent odd/even (day) policy is also more cost-effective th=
an a one-day-in-ten ban, as the costs are the same ... maintaining enforceme=
nt is critical."
Tough love
Yet despite these measures, that many citizens would find quite draconian,=20=
the IEA concludes that tough love is better than none at all.
"Our main conclusion finds that those policies that are more restrictive te=
nd to be most effective in gaining larger reductions in fuel consumption. In=
particular, driving restrictions give the largest estimated reductions in f=
uel consumption."
High oil prices are spurring talk of conservation and cutbacks in use=
Here, however, they do strike a word of warning for governments and those in=
power.
"Restrictive policies such as this can be relatively difficult to implement=
and thus may come at higher political costs."
According to the IEA's little-known emergency treaty, the Agreement on an I=
nternational Energy Programme (IEP), "measures to achieve demand restraint f=
all into three main classes - persuasion and public information, administrat=
ive and compulsory measures, and finally, allocation and rationing schemes".=
This would mean that countries who signed up to the treaty, including the f=
ive biggest economies of the world - US, Japan, Germany, UK and France - wou=
ld all have to institute cuts.
"In the event of an activation of IEP emergency response measures, each IEA=
Member country will be expected to immediately implement demand restraint m=
easures sufficient to reduce oil consumption by 7% of normal demand levels.=20=
In a more severe disruption, this could be raised to 10%."
Effective ban?
There are some interesting asides in the report. As Americans have the most=
cars, the driving bans could be got around by having one car with an odd, a=
nd one car with an even number plate.
Proportionately it makes the ban less effective than in other countries.=
As well as this older cars may be kept in service longer if they have=
"useful" number plates which the IEA admits is "counter-productive from an=20=
air-pollution reduction perspective, as older vehicles would tend to pollute=
more".
However, curtailing the working week and home working would be more effecti=
ve in the US as more people travel to work alone in their cars. As wo=
uld correct tyre pressures. In Japan speed reductions are less effective as=20=
there are less motorways on which to travel fast.
Families with only one car would also be hit harder than their richer frien=
ds as "bans may have some additional costs in terms of reduced accessibility=
and mobility options particularly for single-vehicle households with limite=
d access to alternative modes".
Without doubt this report signifies that the IEA is searching for new ways=20=
to maintain supply security in a volatile oil market. Whether it can achieve=
its aims with this radical report is another matter.