[Culturechat] An End to Growth?

[Vance Roy]

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On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 10:29 PM, WesTexas@aol.com wrote:

> This is a little unusual, but it is a very important topic.=A0 The=20
> Hubbert Curve predicts that worldwide oil production will peak this=20
> decade and then go into a terminal decline from which it will never=20
> recover.=A0=A0

Every time that I come back to CH after a stay in the USA, I have some=20=

of the same feelings. Now, don't get me wrong, there are traffic jams in=20=

CH, but you have to go looking for them. In the USA, it is evident that=20=

at least the interstate system is full. The solution seems to be to=20
build more roads. This takes time, and no one is going to catch up.

Today in CH, gasoline is $3.53 per gallon (took 1.38 CHF per liter and=20=

extrapolated to US$). There are still plenty of cars, but a car here is=20=

a luxury in that you can make your own schedule. There are few places=20
outside of urban America where a car can't be called anything but a=20
requirement. When gasoline hits $10 a gallon in the USA, long before=20
that I will have junked my car here.

What will happen to the broad expanses of expressway, huge parking=20
garages, and large parking lots? What use will be found for them? What=20=

will be the substitute for transport while the scramble is on to get=20
some sort of mass transit system in place, and how long will that take?

Better yet, what sort of government will there be in the USA? When gas=20=

hits $10 a gallon will there be insurrection? You can bet your bippy=20
that there will be no politicians around.



> Vance Roy
gigli.saw@dplanet.ch

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On Sunday, June 2, 2002, at 10:29 PM, WesTexas@aol.com wrote:


<excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>This is a little
unusual, but it is a very important topic.=A0 The Hubbert Curve predicts
that worldwide oil production will peak this decade and then go into a
terminal decline from which it will never recover.=A0=A0=20

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</smaller></fontfamily></excerpt><fontfamily><param>Arial</param><smaller>=


Every time that I come back to CH after a stay in the USA, I have some
of the same feelings. Now, don't get me wrong, there are traffic jams
in CH, but you have to go looking for them. In the USA, it is evident
that at least the interstate system is full. The solution seems to be
to build more roads. This takes time, and no one is going to catch up.


Today in CH, gasoline is $3.53 per gallon (took 1.38 CHF per liter and
extrapolated to US$). There are still plenty of cars, but a car here
is a luxury in that you can make your own schedule. There are few
places outside of urban America where a car can't be called anything
but a requirement. When gasoline hits $10 a gallon in the USA, long
before that I will have junked my car here.


What will happen to the broad expanses of expressway, huge parking
garages, and large parking lots? What use will be found for them? What
will be the substitute for transport while the scramble is on to get
some sort of mass transit system in place, and how long will that take?


Better yet, what sort of government will there be in the USA? When gas
hits $10 a gallon will there be insurrection? You can bet your bippy
that there will be no politicians around.




</smaller></fontfamily><excerpt>Vance Roy

</excerpt>gigli.saw@dplanet.ch=

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