From smstewart@attbi.com Sat Apr 6 01:43:46 2002 From: smstewart@attbi.com (Suzanne M. Stewart) Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2002 20:43:46 -0500 Subject: [Culturechat] need your input Message-ID: <005201c1dd0c$7fe6c220$48611f42@w0682k0088FLT> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1DCE2.95049670 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, my husband and I are visiting the Tuscany region for the first time = this September - do we need to know how to speak Italian in order to = feel comfortable and enjoy the area? We are staying in Buonconvento in = the Mauri apartment, can you provide any specific info about this as = well? thx,=20 suz...aka Suzanne M. Stewart 781.639.1904 (H) 781.631.0680 (F) ------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1DCE2.95049670 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi, my husband and I are visiting the Tuscany region = for the=20 first time this September - do we need to know how to speak Italian in = order to=20 feel comfortable and enjoy the area?  We are staying in = Buonconvento in the=20 Mauri apartment, can you provide any specific info about this as=20 well?
 
thx,
suz...aka
Suzanne M. Stewart
781.639.1904=20 (H)
781.631.0680 (F)
------=_NextPart_000_004F_01C1DCE2.95049670-- From haggart@uidaho.edu Sat Apr 6 18:51:21 2002 From: haggart@uidaho.edu (Peter Haggart) Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2002 10:51:21 -0800 Subject: [Culturechat] need your input References: <005201c1dd0c$7fe6c220$48611f42@w0682k0088FLT> Message-ID: <002601c1dd9c$0c557b90$fef2f5c7@haggart> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C1DD58.FD23B1C0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The best way to get a lot of information about the experiences of other = UnTourists is to read their trip logs. Go to the following site and you = can read and print a number of logs from the area that you are = interested in. Then come back with some very specific questions or = contact the authors of the logs directly for more specific information.=20 Direct your internet browser to: = http://www.untours.com/triplogs/index.htm Regards, Peter =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pete and Maggie Haggart 1530 Borah Ave Moscow, Idaho 83843-2406 email: haggart@moscow.com homepage: http://users.moscow.com/haggart ------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C1DD58.FD23B1C0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The best way to get a lot of = information=20 about the experiences of other UnTourists is to read their trip logs. Go = to the=20 following site and you can read and print a number of logs from the area = that=20 you are interested in. Then come back with some very specific questions = or=20 contact the authors of the logs directly for more specific information.=20
 
Direct your internet browser to: = http://www.untours.com= /triplogs/index.htm
 
Regards,
Peter
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Pete=20 and Maggie Haggart
1530 Borah Ave
Moscow, Idaho = 83843-2406
email: haggart@moscow.com
homepage: = http://users.moscow.com/haggart<= /A>
------=_NextPart_000_0023_01C1DD58.FD23B1C0-- From haggart@uidaho.edu Sun Apr 7 22:41:04 2002 From: haggart@uidaho.edu (Peter Haggart) Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 14:41:04 -0700 Subject: [Culturechat] need your input References: <005201c1dd0c$7fe6c220$48611f42@w0682k0088FLT> Message-ID: <006e01c1de7c$ec1080a0$acf2f5c7@haggart> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C1DE42.3EBB88D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not much if any problems not being even near fluent in Italian.=20 The best advice is to learn the basic greetings and also how to say "Do = you speaking English" in the native language. You will get some = interesting responses, but it will break the ice and the local people = will appreciate your effort to at least try and converse.=20 People have told me that the problem with learning the language is that = sure enough someone will answer you and your next problem will be being = able to listen to someone speaking to you at a fast pace in that = language and then having to respond!=20 Anyway - don't worry - keep your phrase book handy and have fun! Pete =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pete and Maggie Haggart 1530 Borah Ave Moscow, Idaho 83843-2406 email: haggart@moscow.com homepage: http://users.moscow.com/haggart ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Suzanne M. Stewart=20 To: culturechat@untours.com=20 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: [Culturechat] need your input Hi, my husband and I are visiting the Tuscany region for the first = time this September - do we need to know how to speak Italian in order = to feel comfortable and enjoy the area? We are staying in Buonconvento = in the Mauri apartment, can you provide any specific info about this as = well? thx,=20 suz...aka Suzanne M. Stewart 781.639.1904 (H) 781.631.0680 (F) ------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C1DE42.3EBB88D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not much if any problems not = being even=20 near fluent in Italian.
 
The best advice is to learn the = basic=20 greetings and also how to say "Do you speaking English" in the native = language.=20 You will get some interesting responses, but it will break the ice and = the local=20 people will appreciate your effort to at least try and converse. =
 
People have told me that the = problem with=20 learning the language is that sure enough someone will answer you and = your next=20 problem will be being able to listen to someone speaking to = you at a=20 fast pace in that language and then having to respond!
 
Anyway - don't worry - keep your = phrase=20 book handy and have fun!
 
Pete
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Pete=20 and Maggie Haggart
1530 Borah Ave
Moscow, Idaho = 83843-2406
email: haggart@moscow.com
homepage: = http://users.moscow.com/haggart<= /A>
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Suzanne M.=20 Stewart
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 = 6:43=20 PM
Subject: [Culturechat] need = your=20 input

Hi, my husband and I are visiting the Tuscany = region for the=20 first time this September - do we need to know how to speak Italian in = order=20 to feel comfortable and enjoy the area?  We are staying in = Buonconvento=20 in the Mauri apartment, can you provide any specific info about this = as=20 well?
 
thx,
suz...aka
Suzanne M. Stewart
781.639.1904=20 (H)
781.631.0680 (F)
------=_NextPart_000_006B_01C1DE42.3EBB88D0-- From ginik@mindspring.com Mon Apr 8 15:16:44 2002 From: ginik@mindspring.com (Virginia Knueppel) Date: Mon, 8 Apr 2002 10:16:44 -0400 Subject: [Culturechat] need your input References: <005201c1dd0c$7fe6c220$48611f42@w0682k0088FLT> <006e01c1de7c$ec1080a0$acf2f5c7@haggart> Message-ID: <003401c1df08$05292700$e8ff3b3f@0017689816> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1DEE6.7BFFF1A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Amen to what Pete recommends. I would add to his "keep your phrase book = handy" by suggesting that if you have room in your luggage for a small = paperback dictionary of the language, you might enjoy having that, too. In Alsace last year, when my anciently acquired high school French = failed utterly, my phrase book let me down regularly, too. Often, the = brief glossary in the phrase book wasn't extensive enough to cover much = more than words helpful to tourists' questions or demands. For example, = one fractured conversation with our host reached a frustrating impasse = for him when he was trying to give us the names of the wonderful trees = around his terrace. =20 If you want to have a specially delightful time, I suggest you go abroad = armed with phrase book, dictionary (as English-French and = French-English), a few skills at charades, and a well-honed sense of = humor! Relax. You'll have a great time. Gini in Atlanta ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Peter Haggart=20 To: Suzanne M. Stewart ; culturechat@untours.com=20 Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 5:41 PM Subject: Re: [Culturechat] need your input Not much if any problems not being even near fluent in Italian.=20 =20 The best advice is to learn the basic greetings and also how to say = "Do you speaking English" in the native language. You will get some = interesting responses, but it will break the ice and the local people = will appreciate your effort to at least try and converse.=20 =20 People have told me that the problem with learning the language is = that sure enough someone will answer you and your next problem will be = being able to listen to someone speaking to you at a fast pace in that = language and then having to respond!=20 =20 Anyway - don't worry - keep your phrase book handy and have fun! =20 Pete = =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Pete and Maggie Haggart 1530 Borah Ave Moscow, Idaho 83843-2406 email: haggart@moscow.com homepage: http://users.moscow.com/haggart ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Suzanne M. Stewart=20 To: culturechat@untours.com=20 Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 6:43 PM Subject: [Culturechat] need your input Hi, my husband and I are visiting the Tuscany region for the first = time this September - do we need to know how to speak Italian in order = to feel comfortable and enjoy the area? We are staying in Buonconvento = in the Mauri apartment, can you provide any specific info about this as = well? =20 thx,=20 suz...aka Suzanne M. Stewart 781.639.1904 (H) 781.631.0680 (F) ------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1DEE6.7BFFF1A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Amen to what Pete recommends. I would = add to his=20 "keep your phrase book handy" by suggesting that if you have room in = your=20 luggage for a small paperback dictionary of the language, you might = enjoy having=20 that, too.
 
In Alsace last year, when my anciently = acquired=20 high school French failed utterly, my phrase book let me down regularly, = too.=20 Often, the brief glossary in the phrase book wasn't extensive enough to = cover=20 much more than words helpful to tourists' questions or demands. For = example, one=20 fractured conversation with our host reached a frustrating impasse for = him when=20 he was trying to give us the names of the wonderful trees around his=20 terrace.
 
If you want to have a specially = delightful time, I=20 suggest you go abroad armed with phrase book, dictionary (as = English-French and=20 French-English), a few skills at charades, and a well-honed sense of = humor!=20 Relax. You'll have a great time.
Gini in Atlanta
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Peter = Haggart=20
To: Suzanne M. Stewart ; culturechat@untours.com
Sent: Sunday, April 07, 2002 = 5:41=20 PM
Subject: Re: [Culturechat] need = your=20 input

Not much if any problems not = being even=20 near fluent in Italian.
 
The best advice is to learn the = basic=20 greetings and also how to say "Do you speaking English" in the native=20 language. You will get some interesting responses, but it will break = the ice=20 and the local people will appreciate your effort to at least try and = converse.=20
 
People have told me that the = problem with=20 learning the language is that sure enough someone will answer you and = your=20 next problem will be being able to listen to someone = speaking to you=20 at a fast pace in that language and then having to respond! =
 
Anyway - don't worry - keep = your phrase=20 book handy and have fun!
 
Pete
=
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Pete=20 and Maggie Haggart
1530 Borah Ave
Moscow, Idaho = 83843-2406
email: haggart@moscow.com
homepage: = http://users.moscow.com/haggart<= /A>
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Suzanne M.=20 Stewart
To: culturechat@untours.com
Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 = 6:43=20 PM
Subject: [Culturechat] need = your=20 input

Hi, my husband and I are visiting the Tuscany = region for=20 the first time this September - do we need to know how to speak = Italian in=20 order to feel comfortable and enjoy the area?  We are staying = in=20 Buonconvento in the Mauri apartment, can you provide any specific = info about=20 this as well?
 
thx,
suz...aka
Suzanne M. Stewart
781.639.1904=20 (H)
781.631.0680 = (F)
------=_NextPart_000_0031_01C1DEE6.7BFFF1A0-- From giglisaw@aiconnect.com Mon Apr 22 14:25:48 2002 From: giglisaw@aiconnect.com (Vance Roy) Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2002 15:25:48 +0200 Subject: [Culturechat] Smoking on Swiss Trains Message-ID: <7595C302-55F4-11D6-BCA4-0003936A3F2E@aiconnect.com> The SBB has announced that it plans to cut the number of seats designated as smoking by twenty five percent over the next two years. This will leave two thirds of a train smoke free. Some regional trains will become smoke free in the meantime. By 2008, all trains will be smoke free. Vance Roy gigli.saw@dplanet.ch